Since releasing his major label debut Lil Uzi Vert vs. The World in 2016, Lil Uzi Vert has gotten so used to the spotlight, he’s almost completely over it. This was no more apparent than when Rancic interviewed him on the 2018 Grammy Awards red carpet, and the Soundcloud rapper barely answered her questions.

Rancic tried her best to pull answers out of the rapper, who was nominated for best new artist, but to no avail. When she asked him how he was feeling about the awards show (which should have been an enormous achievement for him considering he’d never been nominated before), he replied with a flat, disinterested “Normal.” Rancic then rephrased the question and asked if he was “excited.” Lil Uzi Vert replied, “Yep.”

“This is normal. This is my life. It’s, like, whatever,” he said about attending the awards show, before saying if he won he was just going to think about “everything that I’m gonna buy the next day. You know I like to shop, so shopping.”

Finally, Rancic rounded out the interview by asking the star what his next steps were. Though she was obviously referring to his career, Lil Uzi Vert’s future plans included nothing more than “waking up” and eating some Pop Tarts. Pop Tarts are cool, but they’re not a Grammy.

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